Ruth Deutschmann

Jürgen Pilger

Innsbruck

2008-10-03

Sylvia Mannning - Baumgartner

Nicole D´Incecco

1937

So, I have been told that lived in our house this director of the jail. So enemy of the Nazis. The Mom-.. We had no radio, for example, is also very important. But the manager or director Koller Koller, who had a radio. As we went to them and will have the latest - heard the news. And since we have heard how the Schuschnigg has adopted and has said ". I yield to violence" There were many tears from my mother, I remember. And yet the same night - or a few days later, that Koller was arrested. We have seen arrested by the Gestapo. He came to the camp to Dachau. And then of course we knew not what a concentration camp really is. They said yes, that's just such a detention camp or something, not. That was already in the - in the - well, in the Vornazizeit in Austria - there were detention camps. It was of course not as something like a concentration camp. But also something where political opponents were imprisoned halt. And I remember exactly, he came back some time later this Koller. And of course he had taken off very strong. He was a strong, somewhat corpulent man, and actually came back as a spare man. And people have said: "You see there that has done him good." So keep the people are so shallow, if they do not think about what happened because the man is actually likely. So there - that has shaped us. Or - that is, if a man says he has never - never - never knew there were concentration camps, then he is lying. I knew even as a boy of eleven or twelve, that they are there. What is it exactly, I do not know, but that it actually exists and that there would be people locked up, I already knew.